JP Cusick
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Post by JP Cusick on Jun 5, 2011 17:44:02 GMT -5
The Bible does not really teach of any burning HELL as the word in the Bible only means the grave or garbage dump where they use to throw dead bodies. Many religions beside Christianity has taught people this wrong barbaric idea as their religious doctrine, but it is not real. 1) Any God that burns people for any reason is not only a monster but a criminal and a sinner and an evil entity. 2) Burning people is not " mercy" as it is rather the opposite of mercy. 3) Burning people is not "kind" as it is rather the opposite of kindness. 4) Putting any person into a Hell link is not justice and it can not be. 5) To "love" means no pain and no more hurting for anyone, " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." KJV. Revelation 21:4. God is love, link 1 John 4:8, and God does not hurt people, and that means no one ever goes to any hell.
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Post by Booze on Jun 6, 2011 8:38:49 GMT -5
If thats right then what happens to sinners wen they die?
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Post by JP Cusick on Jun 7, 2011 14:24:06 GMT -5
If thats right then what happens to sinners wen they die? Everyone is a sinner at various degrees and depth, and there is no one as righteous. Nobody goes to some fire and torment of any hell, and the saying of "Hell on earth" in this lifetime now is far more accurate. In the end everyone gets saved and not even one sinner nor one evil sheep gets lost or left out because salvation is for all of mankind. Jesus said "Love thy enemies" just as God loves His enemies, Matthew 5:43-48, so love does not burn people and love does not hurt people, and that means not even those that are sinners and enemies. The plan is to have a great salvation, and it would not be great if some people were excluded.
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Post by JP Cusick on Oct 10, 2011 8:30:32 GMT -5
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Post by Cindy on Oct 12, 2011 8:37:30 GMT -5
That shows you just coping/pasting from here to that forum.
You need to make up somethin new to say.
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Post by bookworm on Oct 15, 2011 22:14:43 GMT -5
The Bible does not really teach of any burning HELL as the word in the Bible only means the grave or garbage dump where they use to throw dead bodies. From what I understand, the garbage dump was one in which garbage was burned, so the imagery of burning was definitely involved in the concept of Hell. The words "hell fire" are used in a number of verses that speak of Hell.
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Post by JP Cusick on Oct 31, 2011 9:56:11 GMT -5
To "love" means no pain and no more hurting for anyone, " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." KJV. Revelation 21:4. God is love, link 1 John 4:8, and God does not hurt people, and that means no one ever goes to any hell. The "lake of fire" means a place of cleaning and purification, as in 1 Corinthians 3:15 " If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being " SAVED" by the " FIRE" and not hurt by it. This is what is meant by the "Judgement Day" as it does NOT mean "guilty or not guilty" as done in human Courtrooms - no, the concept of "Judgement" is given in detail in the Bible book of Judges and the judgements are there to teach the people. Many people see negative just because they have a negative perception, while the true Gospel is a very positive message. In the end every person throughout all of humanity do get saved, and not even the worse of sinners are lost or get left out.
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 23, 2012 8:16:31 GMT -5
To "love" means no pain and no more hurting for anyone, " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." KJV. Revelation 21:4. God is love, link 1 John 4:8, and God does not hurt people, and that means no one ever goes to any hell. The "lake of fire" means a place of cleaning and purification, as in 1 Corinthians 3:15 " If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being " SAVED" by the " FIRE" and not hurt by it. This is what is meant by the "Judgement Day" as it does NOT mean "guilty or not guilty" as done in human Courtrooms - no, the concept of "Judgement" is given in detail in the Bible book of Judges and the judgements are there to teach the people. Many people see negative just because they have a negative perception, while the true Gospel is a very positive message. In the end every person throughout all of humanity do get saved, and not even the worse of sinners are lost or get left out. Thats just talking about purgatory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purgatory
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Post by iloveGod03172012 on Dec 27, 2014 10:36:20 GMT -5
James,
While I appreciate the fact that you believe that everyone goes to heaven. I have to again respectfully say that statement is incorrect. John 3: 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Now when you deny such a perfect gift should you have everlasting life?
Salvation is only by the Name of Jeshua the Son of God there is no other name we can be saved by!!!! I believe and always will believe that God in his magnificent wisdom knows who is going to accept that gift and who is going to deny it.
Now go to the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus John 16: 26 - 31 it talks about Lazarus being in the bosom of Abraham but the rich man was in hell and the fire was so bad that he wanted Lazarus to come and dip the tip of his finger in water to cool his tongue for he was tormented in the fire??? Sounds like hell to me. Now when you are not able to see the Magnificent light and love of God that is what I call hell. I don't think that anyone that denies the gift of Grace through Jeshua's (Jesus Christ) sacrifice will have living life everlasting that is why there is a Lambs book of Life. Also anyone taking the mark of the beast is damned forever!!!
Sincerely
Elijah
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Post by JP Cusick on Dec 28, 2014 15:17:12 GMT -5
James,
While I appreciate the fact that you believe that everyone goes to heaven. I have to again respectfully say that statement is incorrect. John 3: 16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Now when you deny such a perfect gift should you have everlasting life?
Salvation is only by the Name of Jeshua the Son of God there is no other name we can be saved by!!!! I believe and always will believe that God in his magnificent wisdom knows who is going to accept that gift and who is going to deny it.
Now go to the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus John 16: 26 - 31 it talks about Lazarus being in the bosom of Abraham but the rich man was in hell and the fire was so bad that he wanted Lazarus to come and dip the tip of his finger in water to cool his tongue for he was tormented in the fire??? Sounds like hell to me. Now when you are not able to see the Magnificent light and love of God that is what I call hell. I don't think that anyone that denies the gift of Grace through Jeshua's (Jesus Christ) sacrifice will have living life everlasting that is why there is a Lambs book of Life. Also anyone taking the mark of the beast is damned forever!!!
Sincerely
Elijah
Hi Elijah, I have not been here in a while so it took me a long time to get reorganized. To the topic: You are skipping over this: The "lake of fire" means a place of cleaning and purification, as in 1 Corinthians 3:15 " If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So the person is being " SAVED" by the " FIRE" and not hurt by it.
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