JP Cusick
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Post by JP Cusick on Jun 1, 2011 10:03:31 GMT -5
It seems to me that Law needs to be first taught in elementary school and then more-so in High school because it is ridiculous that we claim to be a Country of Laws and then do not teach the laws in the schools, and a High School graduate does not even have the simplest of training to represent them selves over a traffic ticket.
Many children are damaged and too many are ruined by laws and processes which they never understood.
The Child Support too is a huge interest which children do not understand even when it directly affects their own parents.
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JP Cusick
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Post by JP Cusick on Jun 18, 2011 10:10:27 GMT -5
Another thing about schools is how can it be that the vast majority of the USA are religious citizens and yet our schools teach things that contradict and undermine the religious culture of our populace? Surely that is manipulated extreme. Things like evolution and controversial historical accounts could be taught in college courses if such students enroll - as like Theology is a college course. And " evolution" is not so very complicated and easily taught so college age students would be old enough to defend or maintain their religious beliefs against any anti-God teachings. |
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Post by bookworm on Sept 19, 2011 23:41:52 GMT -5
It seems to me that Law needs to be first taught in elementary school and then more-so in High school because it is ridiculous that we claim to be a Country of Laws and then do not teach the laws in the schools, and a High School graduate does not even have the simplest of training to represent them selves over a traffic ticket. Many children are damaged and too many are ruined by laws and processes which they never understood. The Child Support too is a huge interest which children do not understand even when it directly affects their own parents. I think the schools have enough trouble teaching the basic subjects like reading, writing, and arithmetic without trying to teach "law" in the elementary schools. Which "laws" would be included for which grades? Besides, there is a certain extent to which "law" IS taught to youngsters. Every year when they get on the bus, they are taught certain things about crosswalks and other traffic laws that the cars around them are supposed to obey. Parents have the primary responsibility, I think, to make sure that their kids understand the laws. |
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Post by JP Cusick on Sept 24, 2011 8:20:20 GMT -5
I think the schools have enough trouble teaching the basic subjects like reading, writing, and arithmetic without trying to teach "law" in the elementary schools. My understanding is that the schools do not teach reading, writing and arithmetic very well now-a-days. It is highly possible and probable that teaching boring and useless subject in school is why so many children resist it and dislike it. And failing to teach laws might be why another large segment of school children get into trouble with the law. We teach things in elementary schools about evolution and the solar system and "Black Holes" which are completely useless information to know in the real life world, but the High School graduate gets a simple speeding ticket and they are completely untaught and ignorant of how to address a Judge or a Court in their own defense. Which "laws" would be included for which grades? It is not that hard to figure out. Besides, there is a certain extent to which "law" IS taught to youngsters. Every year when they get on the bus, they are taught certain things about crosswalks and other traffic laws that the cars around them are supposed to obey. You say the children learn not to be run over by the cars in traffic and that is their legal education. I say we can do far better than that. Parents have the primary responsibility, I think, to make sure that their kids understand the laws. The thing here is that most parents do not know the law either. We do not teach the public about the laws so the vast majority of the population are uninformed and ignorant of the law while living in a Country of laws. This is not a new form of ignorance because we have kept Americans uninformed about our laws for generations.  |
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Post by bookworm on Sept 24, 2011 23:34:52 GMT -5
My understanding is that the schools do not teach reading, writing and arithmetic very well now-a-days. It is highly possible and probable that teaching boring and useless subject in school is why so many children resist it and dislike it. Reading, writing, and arithmetic certainly aren't useless, but certain teaching styles could be considered boring. The same would be true, though, if those same teachers were trying to teach law. If you don't think the schools teach the basic subjects very well, what makes you think they would teach the law any better? Kids who want to get into trouble are going to get into trouble whether they know the law or not. Simply teaching them about law will not change their heart attitudes about compliance to authority. If that High School graduate has gotten a speeding ticket, then they should WATCH THEIR SPEED. I don't think they should waste the money of the judge or the courts by trying to mount some kind of defense when they should just adjust their behaviour and stop speeding. If it is not that hard to figure out, then surely you can give me some examples for the elementary grades. That was only one example. There are others. For example, elementary students have drug education units they have to sit through in which they find out the laws regarding drugs. The problem is that the information may be introducing them to these illegal pastimes rather than turning them away from the illegal activities. If the parents and the public are uninformed, then what makes you think the teachers would be informed enough to teach the subject? |
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Post by JP Cusick on Sept 26, 2011 14:34:33 GMT -5
Reading, writing, and arithmetic certainly aren't useless, but certain teaching styles could be considered boring. The same would be true, though, if those same teachers were trying to teach law. If you don't think the schools teach the basic subjects very well, what makes you think they would teach the law any better? I do not say that the teachers do not teach well and I certainly do not want to attack the teachers. What I said and still say is that the schools teach boring and useless information. As like teaching evolution and big-bang and black holes, while a High School graduate can not defend them self over a simple speeding ticket. Kids who want to get into trouble are going to get into trouble whether they know the law or not. Simply teaching them about law will not change their heart attitudes about compliance to authority. I disagree with that. A kid might be told that marijuana is against the law, but few are told the reality of juvenile detention or that the law will ruin their entire life over a small quantity of weed. Even now they are busting kids for childish bullying when the kids have no comprehension as to what they are up against. If it is not that hard to figure out, then surely you can give me some examples for the elementary grades. A true example would be the Child Support laws, teaching the young kids how the c/s laws will destroy their lives, evict them from a higher education, and that sex is now treated as a crime. If the parents and the public are uninformed, then what makes you think the teachers would be informed enough to teach the subject? I do not believe the teachers are so equipped to teach simple law, so everyone is ignorant of our laws in a Country of law. We need to change this. But I am not running for the school board. |
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Post by citygirl on Sept 27, 2011 8:21:18 GMT -5
Reading, writing, and arithmetic certainly aren't useless, but certain teaching styles could be considered boring. The same would be true, though, if those same teachers were trying to teach law. If you don't think the schools teach the basic subjects very well, what makes you think they would teach the law any better? I do not say that the teachers do not teach well and I certainly do not want to attack the teachers. What I said and still say is that the schools teach boring and useless information. As like teaching evolution and big-bang and black holes, while a High School graduate can not defend them self over a simple speeding ticket. I disagree with that. A kid might be told that marijuana is against the law, but few are told the reality of juvenile detention or that the law will ruin their entire life over a small quantity of weed. Even now they are busting kids for childish bullying when the kids have no comprehension as to what they are up against. A true example would be the Child Support laws, teaching the young kids how the c/s laws will destroy their lives, evict them from a higher education, and that sex is now treated as a crime. If the parents and the public are uninformed, then what makes you think the teachers would be informed enough to teach the subject? I do not believe the teachers are so equipped to teach simple law, so everyone is ignorant of our laws in a Country of law. We need to change this. But I am not running for the school board. Teach children about staying married and dont abuse your wife and pay for your children and dont screw around with some other woman! |
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