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Post by bookworm on Sept 22, 2011 18:11:43 GMT -5
The Post Office is considering eliminating Saturday delivery. What do you think of that idea? I'm not sure that it will save as much money as they think it will, due to the overtime that will have to be paid each Monday delivering the large amount of mail which will come that day.
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Post by JP Cusick on Sept 24, 2011 8:29:26 GMT -5
The Post Office is considering eliminating Saturday delivery. What do you think of that idea? I'm not sure that it will save as much money as they think it will, due to the overtime that will have to be paid each Monday delivering the large amount of mail which will come that day. The idea of closing on Saturdays and other cut backs is because we want to save and preserve the Post Office from complete failure and default. We factually know that electronic communications, particularly emails of various forms and the attachments have replaced the old service and purpose of the Postal service. I do not believe there is any realistic expectation of the Post Office being overloaded on Monday based on closing Saturdays because the business is going down. Since no one wants to lose the Post Office entirely then we have to make some realistic changes in order to preserve it within this new age of electronic communications.
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Post by bookworm on Sept 24, 2011 23:53:06 GMT -5
The idea of closing on Saturdays and other cut backs is because we want to save and preserve the Post Office from complete failure and default. Actually, if the government simply removed the requirement that the Post Office pre-fund retiree benefits, then the Post Office would not be close to default. No other agency has to pre-fund the benefits in the way that the Postal Service is required to do so. There are many legal documents, requiring signatures, for which electronic communications are insufficient to send. Also, even though a great many people throw away their bulk advertising mail, a lot of people do read it. Almost everyone, though, blocks advertising e-mails. So even though business had gone down, I don't think the services of the Post Office can be replaced by other mediums. The lessening of business has caused route consolidations which create longer and longer routes on the street. Therefore, if all the Saturday mail is delayed until Monday, on these long routes, then the ONLY realistic expectation is that overtime will be required on Monday.
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Post by citygirl on Sept 25, 2011 11:28:05 GMT -5
What about people that work 4 a living since they gotta use the PO on Saturday.
They close the PO on Sat day and lots of people gonna be put out.
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Post by JP Cusick on Sept 29, 2011 9:44:08 GMT -5
Actually, if the government simply removed the requirement that the Post Office pre-fund retiree benefits, then the Post Office would not be close to default. No other agency has to pre-fund the benefits in the way that the Postal Service is required to do so. How can we possible want to stop pre-funding? There must be a better way then that. There are many legal documents, requiring signatures, for which electronic communications are insufficient to send. Also, even though a great many people throw away their bulk advertising mail, a lot of people do read it. Almost everyone, though, blocks advertising e-mails. So even though business had gone down, I don't think the services of the Post Office can be replaced by other mediums. I agree completely. We certainly do want to keep the Postal service working. The lessening of business has caused route consolidations which create longer and longer routes on the street. Therefore, if all the Saturday mail is delayed until Monday, on these long routes, then the ONLY realistic expectation is that overtime will be required on Monday. I honestly doubt that is correct. The mail gets sorted at huge central locations and then sent out to the various local offices, so the carrier might have a slightly larger delivery but not overtime hours. What about people that work 4 a living since they gotta use the PO on Saturday. They close the PO on Sat day and lots of people gonna be put out. Ms, I do believe the idea is NOT to close the entire Post Office but just to stop the Saturday delivery service. The Post Office would still be open for business but the deliveries to homes and to businesses would be only on weekdays / work days. By stopping the deliveries on Saturdays then some employees would not work on Saturday, and the delivery trucks would not be burning gasoline, so it is just an idea to cut back the cost and not to completely cut out the Post Office.
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Post by bookworm on Sept 29, 2011 19:41:33 GMT -5
Actually, if the government simply removed the requirement that the Post Office pre-fund retiree benefits, then the Post Office would not be close to default. No other agency has to pre-fund the benefits in the way that the Postal Service is required to do so. How can we possible want to stop pre-funding? There must be a better way then that. Thanks for catching my slip-up in regards to wording. I didn't mean to say that we should completely eliminate pre-funding. The problem is in the amount of pre-funding that is being required. For some reason, the Postal Service is being required to pre-fund 75 years worth of benefits within the span of just 10 years. No other agency is being required to pre-fund that much in such a short period of time. If the Postal Service was given 20 years to make the prefunding payments instead of 10, the bottom line would look much more stable.
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Post by bookworm on Sept 29, 2011 19:55:01 GMT -5
I honestly doubt that is correct. The mail gets sorted at huge central locations and then sent out to the various local offices, so the carrier might have a slightly larger delivery but not overtime hours. I have been delivering mail for 26 years, and already Monday is the heaviest day of the week, since the sorting facilities work on Saturday night and Sunday night to get us the Monday mail. Sometimes, even now, overtime is required on Mondays due to Sunday being a non-delivery day. Things would only get worse in regards to needing overtime if Saturday delivery is eliminated. And then think of the weeks in which there is a Monday holiday. We would have Saturday, Sunday, and Monday mail all bunched into a Tuesday. I dread the thought.
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Post by JP Cusick on Sept 30, 2011 11:19:31 GMT -5
Thanks for catching my slip-up in regards to wording. I didn't mean to say that we should completely eliminate pre-funding. The problem is in the amount of pre-funding that is being required. For some reason, the Postal Service is being required to pre-fund 75 years worth of benefits within the span of just 10 years. No other agency is being required to pre-fund that much in such a short period of time. If the Postal Service was given 20 years to make the prefunding payments instead of 10, the bottom line would look much more stable. In that case it sounds like a brilliant idea. Perhaps you could try to give this suggestion to your local Congressman because they really do read emails which are sent to them, and if they actually receive a hand written letter from a constituent then they love that. In fact you could even send such an email to everyone in the Senate and in the House and a copy to the President and Vice President too, because they really want comments and ideas from real life Americans. I would suggest you send it to each State instead of to each individual Representative, because when it is addressed to the State as like to the State of California in the Senate and in the House of Representatives then their secretaries will make copies and send it to each of the Representatives which give your message an extra boost. And yes I have sent all of them emails and real letters in the past concerning my one hated grievance and a few have written me back saying they have a policy of always answering a constituent's letter. I have been delivering mail for 26 years, and already Monday is the heaviest day of the week, since the sorting facilities work on Saturday night and Sunday night to get us the Monday mail. Sometimes, even now, overtime is required on Mondays due to Sunday being a non-delivery day. Things would only get worse in regards to needing overtime if Saturday delivery is eliminated. And then think of the weeks in which there is a Monday holiday. We would have Saturday, Sunday, and Monday mail all bunched into a Tuesday. I dread the thought. Of course I did not know that you worked in the Post Office and that does make a big difference and if you try to give suggestions to the Postal authorities or sending a message to your own Representatives then do be sure to tell them that you are in the trenches as a postal employee because that carries huge weight in such matters. Link = Postmaster General Patrick Donahue told a U.S. Senate committee. Link = There’s also talk about closing more post offices.
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Post by Booze on Oct 2, 2011 16:17:50 GMT -5
The Post Office is considering eliminating Saturday delivery. What do you think of that idea? I'm not sure that it will save as much money as they think it will, due to the overtime that will have to be paid each Monday delivering the large amount of mail which will come that day. Just raise thye price of stamps...
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